Caroline Khamati Mugalla (East African Trade Union Confederation - EATUC) talks to RadioLabour about how public budgets are stunted by this illegal form of wealth extraction, which means that governments in developing countries are unable to mobilise resources for public service provision. Ms. Mugalla also warns of the implications of turning to Public-Private Partnerships for providing such services, as profit-making interests can often be at odds with that of the greater public good.